Some moments in life fundamentally change the way you think about the world – that’s what this conversation with Mo Gawdat did for me and I’m certain it will for you too.

Mo is the former Chief Business Officer of Google X, Google’s moonshot factory of innovation, a prolific author on the topic of happiness, and has an incredibly touching story.

In 2014, Mo lost his son Ali unexpectedly during a routine medical procedure, and in an attempt to honour Ali, Mo set off on a mission to spread the message that happiness can be learned and shared with one simple technique: the happiness equation.

For the next 90 minutes I ask you to forget everything you’ve learned about happiness from the modern world until now. In the episode we talk about a lot of things, things that may sit uncomfortably with some people, but also have the potential to be truly life changing.